Gleaner Combine Serial Numbers
Cylinder width, 30', separator, 40' wide, 156' long, 5760 Sq. I don't know how that compares to a K.
Actually, I have only combined about 15 bushels of barley with it so far. Barley was 30% moisture plus, and I had gas trouble and spark trouble with the engine, so it ran horribly, but the combine threshed very well.
It is too for north to grow corn or soybeans well here, so I don't even know anyone who has tried it on them, but my combine origionally came from southern ontario, and the concave is worn out from soybeans, according to a previous owner, so I think they work on anything.I have a friend with an A and an E, and he loves them for grass seed, but you need screens for that. Intend to fix concave next year, this year I have to get it running.They are an easy machine to fix. I have always been a grass farmer, so have no experience with combines, but with a manual, I have been able to figure out what to do with it so far. Regards, Harv. Yep, your right. I live in North Eastern Ontario, 5 miles from the Quebec border,and about 300 miles north of Toronto. Sure would love to be able to send you guys about 10 or 20 inches of our excess rain every year.
I have never heard of anyone trying to grow alfalfa seed here, but we grow timothy, clover and trefoil.I have a friend with a John Deere 45,but I don't know how it compares in size to the A2. If you can get a deisel, I think you will have a great combine. I think mine will use about 3 gallons an hour, but the former owner I mentioned says his D19 deisel (same motor as the combine)uses about 1 gal. I think I will keep my eyes open for a deisel motor too.
I have a Gleaner A2 with serial #40128, and it is supposed to be a 1964 by what I was told, so yours is only a little older. The engine is likely an Allis Chalmers G-230. There should be a plate on the engine, on the grain tank side, to the left if the distributor cap, with the serial # and model # of the engine. I am not very experienced with combines, but from reading adds, K's are newer, from the 70's and have a bigger GM292 engine, or deisel.
Gleaner F Combine
I'm not sure if an A came in deisel, but an A2 does. It's the same engine redesigned for deisel, which I think is the same as a D19. Hope this helps Harv.
Hello Harv, Thanks for your response. From your comments, is the 'K' size just a newer version of the A2 or is the 'K' also a larger machine. What size cylinder does your A2 have? I have run mostly John-Deere but have a desire to try this Gleaner, good history of being much more service/repair friendly. I assume that the machine, that I am looking to buy, is probably an A2 though I suggested just an 'A'. I will be looking at the machine in a couple of days.
I do want to go to diesel if I buy so will be looking for a good diesel to interchange. Have you used your A2 in only grains? I need a combine for grains and alfalfa seed.
You are logged in as a guest. ( ) Gleaner L 2:: - Message format Posted 2/14/2010 10:56 (#1073979) Subject: Gleaner L 2 I'm looking at an L2 Gleaner to buy. I have the serial #. Is there a website that would tell me the year of this machine? Also, you Gleaner guys, is there much difference between an early L 2 and a late model? Thanks Posted 2/14/2010 11:15 (#1074006 - in reply to #1073979) Subject: RE: Gleaner L 2 Northeast Indiana (Auburn) L2 1977-13001, 1978-15501, 1979-17501, 1980-19501, 1981-21501, 1982-24001. L3 1983-26001, 1984-28001.
The 1977 had shorter walkers and chaffer-sieves. Edited by SD-455 2/14/2010 18:15 Posted 2/14/2010 11:28 (#1074026 - in reply to #1074006) Subject: RE: Gleaner L 2 Dallas Center IA 515-720-2463 Just where did you get that idea? 'The 1977 had shorter walkers and chaffer-sieves.' The 1980 and later had a bigger cleaning shoe. But PDS the walkers were all the same L, L2 & L3. (201.JPG) Attachments - (86KB - 591 downloads) Posted 2/14/2010 13:44 (#1074207 - in reply to #1074026) Subject: Gleaner L series Separating and Cleaning size Dallas Center IA 515-720-2463 First year of production, 1972, Model L sales literature, dated Jan 72. Separating length 216' area 11,634 The walker length is not listed, but since the area is the same as the 78 models below I would assume they would also be the same at 120' 1978 models, dated Nov 87 Length 216', area 11,634, walker length 120' 1982 models, dated Jan 82 Length 216', area 11,780, 120' walkers The 146 square inch increase in area is probably a different way of measuring.
It is about 2.75' of length The width, total length, and walker length are the same as before 1984 Model L3 sales literature dated Mar 84, the same as the 1982 models. The walkers may have different part numbers but they are the same length. The cleaning shoes on the 1972 thru 1979 Model L and L3 were 5,525 sq in With the 1980 model L2 combines the shoe was longer - 6,206 sq in Almost as big as the model N rotary combines 6,206 vs 6,339 Since at the time I felt cleaning shoe size was the only thing that determinded combine size - Why should you buy a N when a L was 98% as big?
And since I also felt shoe length was more important than shoe width = The narrower L shoe would have to be longer. I still think cleaning shoe capacity is very important in combine size. But cleaning shoe capicity is more than size. How air is used has a lot to do with how much a shoe will handle. Model M combine. Separating: 216' length, 120' walkers, 9,964 sq in Cleaning shoes 4,667 sq in for 1973 thru 1979 models. There were no 1980 model M combines The reborn 1981 model M2 had the longer cleaning shoe of 5,252 sq in.
(204.JPG) Attachments - (80KB - 575 downloads) Posted 2/14/2010 14:36 (#1074292 - in reply to #1074026) Subject: Re: Gleaner L 2 New Ulm, MN Off topic a bit, Can you expain the Pic Please, looks like some kind of old mill with line shafts, Looks neat. And guessing by the new Fire Ext its still being used Posted 2/14/2010 18:12 (#1074609 - in reply to #1074026) Subject: RE: Gleaner L 2 Northeast Indiana (Auburn) I was thinking of the 1977 F2. I have a set of chaffer and sieve for the early L2 that asre shorter than what my 1982 L2 takes. Posted 2/14/2010 12:35 (#1074105 - in reply to #1074006) Subject: RE: Gleaner L 2 NEMO The green stripe ones were made as the deutz allis models untill the end of 1986 when the conventionals were dropped.
Posted 2/14/2010 12:50 (#1074120 - in reply to #1074105) Subject: Re: Gleaner L 2 Allis Chalmers started the L3or L4 Mexican built combine; I think this stayed in production till 1991; I dont think Deutz got this in the buy-out;They had alot of manufacturing problems at first but I think some were produced; really dont know how many if any are in the US; green stripe were DA,but I thought they were produced till 91 too;??? Posted 2/14/2010 13:08 (#1074148 - in reply to #1074120) Subject: Re: Gleaner L 2 Elmira, Ontario What Frank said for the L3 is similar to my memory. After that, DA introduced the R40/R50 which replaced all the remaining conventional models.
This was all done in the Gleaner plant in Independence. After the R40/R50 were introduced, I remember going to training in Milwaukee. This had to have been in 1988 or prior based on my job history. Another dealer at the training took the s/n of the training combine saying he didn't want a machine that had been taken apart and put back together so many times. The instructor got offended and said he would be repeating all the work himself at the end of the scheduled classes. He claimed he could put things together at least as well as anyone at the manufacturing plant. I can't remember the story of how the Mexican built units got going, or who the manufacturer was.
Posted 2/14/2010 14:16 (#1074260 - in reply to #1074148) Subject: Re: Gleaner L 2 NEMO I think the mexican units were called L4's. Had a picture of one some where but can't find it now. If I remember right it had a cummins engine and a few other changes from the L3's but never caught on. Posted 2/14/2010 14:35 (#1074291 - in reply to #1074260) Subject: Re: Gleaner L 2 NEMO just found my leaflet on the L4, says it was built by A-C Mexicana, S.A.
In San Luis, Potosi, S.L.P., Mexico List improvements over the L3 as, Cummins 5.9 engine heaver final drives heavier rear axle and spindles heavier front axle heavier gague steel threasher housing heavier deck and ladder heavier main threshing clutch housing assembly heavier rear deck and ladder heavier main threshing clutch shaft heavier engine drive Also says all moving parts and service parts are the same as a late L3. The letter from a distributer in ND is dated December of 1990 and says they had brought up 7 machines for the 1990 northern US and Candaian harvest as a test and they performed very well and they were looking for dealers. Posted 2/14/2010 14:14 (#1074254 - in reply to #1074120) Subject: Model L4 combines Dallas Center IA 515-720-2463 There was a factory in Mexico making combines for Allis-Chalmers.
I do not know if Allis-Chalmers owned the plant or not. But it was not in the Deutz buyout. They had all the tooling except for the engine stuff.
So they used a Cummin engine and keep building L combines, calling them L4. This outfit had nothing to do with Deutz or Deutz-Allis I don't think they made very many. But there were a lot of us good Gleaner people that day-dreamed of having one. But the mid 80s was a hard time to buy anything. Just one of the many strange thinks that happened during the 'German Occupation' Now we are in the 'Massey Occupation' But I doubt if D-day ever comes! (DSC00971 - Copy.jpg) Attachments - (55KB - 665 downloads) (42KB - 601 downloads) (44KB - 596 downloads) Posted 2/14/2010 14:12 (#1074252 - in reply to #1074151) Subject: Re: Gleaner L 2 NEMO I bought a new M3 in 88 but was told it was an 86 model that had just been sitting for 2 years.
Looked just like your L3 with green stripe and deutz allis on the cab. Posted 2/14/2010 17:11 (#1074517 - in reply to #1074151) Subject: Re: Gleaner F3 too southern MN Not sure when they made the F3 Green stripes, I assume about the same. (F3combine.JPG) Attachments - (94KB - 710 downloads) Posted 2/14/2010 13:43 (#1074205 - in reply to #1074105) Subject: Re: Gleaner L 2 Sussex Corner, New Brunswick My understanding was that the stopped production in 85 but that many of the last ones made were dated for the year they were sold rather than made. My green stripe L3 was advertized as an 87 and from what I was told it was actually one of the last made. Posted 2/14/2010 16:23 (#1074440 - in reply to #1073979) Subject: RE: Gleaner L 2 Thanks to all you guys for the good info especially SD-455 for th SN breakdown.
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